Fibromyalgia causes body-wide pain and extreme tiredness. When owners of the largest watering hole for knitters now say to millions of knitters that because you do not agree with our politics..that you are not welcome. I can’t wait to see a better platform eliminating division. https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/. They are practicing bigotry. Thanks for the link to ourunraveled.com Janine. I’m so sad not to be associated with the good parts of Ravelry any more. And telling us we need to check our privilege because we dislike R’s decision. I considered them beneath my acknowledgement when they pulled that bunny out of their brainless hat. I also deleted my account. Then Sunday morning I read the illogical policy change. Basically, conservatives are sitting ducks who can’t make a sound when they are attacked. It’s about making people ashamed of their country and their flag. Ravelry.com is a social website for anyone who likes yarn. What I heard was no political ideology from eirher perspective would be allowed which is appropriate for a forum devoted to needle crafts. Well said! I always see people grieving over the loss of online friends.. I am thankful I saw your blog, and truly appreciate your thoughts. A statement on their website indicated that they had no interest in why I was deleting it so I did not have the satisfaction of telling them that I would pray for their poor souls. I have so much in my pattern library, and I feel so stuck. Would have been simpler, especially seeing all the hate speech on twitter now, Brexit seems like a walk in the park now lol. That shop owner was stupid. Slightly longer answer: Last week, Ravelry announced a new official policy banning all content in support of the current U.S. President (Donald Trump) and his administration, on the grounds that support for Trump = support for white supremacy. If you want to keep politics out of it, then do so, but don’t be a HYPOCRITE! The most I wanted to debate is which is better continental knitting vs american knitting. We vote for who can get the job done as leader of our country. As a side note, I suggest http://www.lovecrafts.com for both yarns and patterns. Politics is a dirty, dirty game to grab power and money and hold on to it. I do needlework for relaxation, not activism. Ravelry’s Terms of Use prohibit the uploading of “vulgar” and “obscene” patterns (item 5a in Terms of Use, http: // www. Hear! Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Honestly, if you can’t see the hate emanating from the highest office in this land you simply aren’t paying attention. Now it’s become ‘unfollow me. I will add that link in a comment to this. website for knitters (and other fiber art related people) .. that has a no-violence It’s such a shame to see Ravelry doing this. 1. That’s awesome. ravelry members leaving Fibromyalgia causes pain, tenderness, fatigue, sleep problems, and other health conditions. Yes it is a shame what has happened to this site which as I get all my patterns transferred to my computer I will delete my account. Who thinks or even cares about the pattern creator and other knitters. But they do allow for polite debate under the “Off Topic” discussion board. If he was, I would not support him. I felt that there was no reason for the WAY it was written and using Trump and his administration as a scapegoat goat as well. Fortunately, I’ve discovered that pattern’s designer along with many, many more have relocated to lovecrafts.com, a website which is proving to be inclusive to all, not just those who’s political leanings are different, as well as they have a sizable pattern database. I so wish Ravelry had a change to their policies that said, “Everyone come to the table, bring your projects and lets talk.” But, instead they insisted that some of you aren’t welcome here. I just read my own thoughts and reaction to this decision in your words. ( Log Out /  But I guess as a conservative, Christian, Canadian woman, they didn’t want me anyway. Necesse est omnes nos in unum d…, @Karl - MeWe is where FB was 10 years ago. Treat us all fairly or you lose. It is a favorite of mine when knitting hats for charity. I deleted my account immediately. Let me just say. Haven’t heard back yet….then I noticed she is a volunteer rav editor…. The truth is that there are a small percentage of very loud, angry people who wake up every morning looking for outrage. I just spent an hour reading your post and will be following you and your creative talents. And there’s a critical mass for their inventory. Please keep the truth going and help change other views that we are not evil people. I guess as long as you agree with them its considered acceptable only. Make sure to explain why you are deleting your account. May your wool be moth free and soft. Come on over and be welcomed. Just for hanging out with the wrong crowd. Thanks for the info on the other sites. The site just wanted it’s 15 minutes of woke internet clout right at the beginning of election season. Thank you for expressing the thoughts of many of us in such an eloquent fashion. Wonderful post. Thank you for this. I only knew about it from Twitter. That is where they lost 50% plus of their users, plus income stream. I, too, am a southern, Christian White woman who knits and crochets. I appreciate my trash collector more than a movie star. When a business owner decides to use their business as their political platform and I’m a customer, that’s when I’m done. Ravelry isn’t trying to make people feel safe, it’s making them question how safe their neighborhood is. And these are supposed to be the coexist people. Please tell me how you managed to delete your account. 2. The other thing I’d like to note is if there was a site rule that certain chatter would not be tolerated they could have just posted it on the login page (I see things like that all the time on my FB groups..I see people getting banned every day for violating the rules), but Ravelry politicized it further by putting it on a worldwide social media platform. I will not buy a pattern, click on an ad, or make any other move that will provide financial support for Ravelry. I felt that in calling Trump what they did, they insulted yarn artists who support him…as you said, how does this bring us together to heal, share, laugh and bond? I look forward to following your knitting adventures and I’ll be sitting here crocheting along with them. Thank you for sharing your view. Go into your profile on Ravelry then scroll to the bottom. So, even though I’m not pro-Trump, I’m pro-freedom, and I’m anti-Fascist. Knitting should not have anything to do with gay pride or politics. would be fair to everyone, offend no one and give people a place to come together over a craft instead of the now divisive policy they’ve impemented. Now I’m labeled something ugly for agreeing. I will be fine though, I have 1700+ patterns on my computer and over a 4 foot stack of knitting magazines. I don’t think we can rely on the news channels or Facebook or Twitter or Youtube or Kitting blogs to to find the truth about our government leaders. I can love you and not like your decisions! I wish I could hug you. All my positive sentiments towards Ravelry have been shattered. Yeah, dont get me started. You understand that pain, yet you stand against other who experience that same pain in different ways. That was awesome! Bravo. Gregory Patrick for President. It's there, working for you now, whether you click the link or not! I cannot agree more. The premise being cited as the rationale for excluding pro-Trump content on Ravelry is, of course, a gross mischaracterization and overgeneralization of Trump supporters. The few GOP groups are being infiltrated by liberals who’ve never before chatted in those rooms until Sunday and now are systematically entering every corner of the site to engage conservatives into conversations that ultimately get them banned. I cheer on the RBG on AOC dolls and patterns because “creativity!” but gods help me if I were to design something supporting Trump, or conservatives. Oh yes, you have the right to express your opinion but I have the right to disagree with it whether you like it or not, now put your pussy hat on, grab some crayons and playdoe, crawl to a corner and curl up in a fetal position and suck your thumb. This is just another way to divide the community. You have stated why, I too, deleted my Ravelry account. Thank you for sharing this. Be careful. I worked my butt off and paid a small fortune for my “privilege”. I don’t care that you a conservative, or gay, or a male knitter. Sometimes it takes me a second to figure things out. Thank you so much for taking the time to say this and to bring people together! So, where is the site that we can regroup, and um, rival, raverly? I may just give up this creative outlet once my stash is gone. I don’t care what anyone’s politics are, I just want to turn pea-green with envy over everyone’s knitting skills. It makes me so sad to know that people feel excluded in the name of inclusivity. Thank you, so much for this post. Lottsa books out there. As a frequent visitor I found it posted on their site. Thanks for the update on Lion Brand Wool-Ease. I cannot remain in a group that in my opionion is using hate speach about a large portion of it’s members. The vast majority of conservatives are not hateful and do not support (insert labels of the day). I’m not a white supremacist or a Trump supporter. I don’t think companies are being very smart when they take a political “side”. You said what I have thought and felt beautifully! I still don’t. They should have forbidden political discussion for EVERYONE. I was rather taken back by Ravelry’s announcement and couldn’t find the words top express how I felt but you have done an excellent job. We cannot provide a space that is inclusive of all and also allow support for open white supremacy. That was very well spoken. I could not agree more! But what wasn’t fine was the whole “You can’t support Trump here” thing. Hi! They are not banning trump supporters but they are banning any open support of his policies. The exact words I habe been saying since I heard what they decided to do. No political stuff would have been easy and acceptable, but instead they went the way they went. I don’t look at the Ravelry homepage, nor do I look at the discussion forums. As for myself, I am far less political than Don is. Thank you. If a website, like Ravelry, that is supposed to be a public platform, is discriminating and causing division among fiber artists based on their political beliefs or choices then they are NOT being inclusive at all. So glad to have found your site. I wrote to them about that & got a reply about “Fair Use”. Yeah…. Keeping our mouths shut and our heads down hoping you’ll see us as humans with brains just like you. To be clear, and to reiterate what it says in its policy update, Ravelry has not banned people who support Trump from the site. A lot of us were longtime members and substantial financial supporters of Ravelry and it’s pattern makers. Also, Trump related patterns aren’t all they removed. I too deleted my acct. Gregory has expressed the thoughts of many, many people who don’t have the talent or forum to present it so well. He was my anchor when my brother died. So what is the right supposed to do in that scenario.. just keep hearing it and not saying anything about it? Ravelry is a community site, an organizational tool, and a yarn & pattern database for knitters and crocheters. Lumping people together is what got us to where we are right now. I was a member since 2007. I am so mad about it I am also deleting my account. Exorcisms are like that. My motto is just love everyone. There’s a Walk away from Ravelry FB page, with nearly 1,400 members so far, and three! . one of a act to spread peace and awareness… not the opposite. You’ll find in no time where you belong. Peace and love to all. I want peace, and community. ( Log Out /  And May you always be able to locate a tape measure when you need it. And I just don’t want to be involved in that. This is about patterns, not forcing your personal agendas or feelings….at the end of the day, it is Ravelry’s decision. I’ve knitted primarily for a decade. It WAS a wonderful place for while. You have done it so beautifully and eloquently. Being a gay man who knits in this community is nothing novel. I’m an American citizen, but I’m brown and my family is from Mexico and that is enough for me to be hated. I love Ravelry & I literally used it every day. I look at blog and YouTube tip jars as nothing more than what I would pay to rent a movie, buy a magazine, etc. I saw that, and I did my own research which supported the video. That’s how we fight back. A crocheting forum should be a place of peace and solemn! These skeins, these needles, these movements of beauty that shift from knit to purl and back again to build something beautiful may be the only thing in this divisive time that some of us have in common. Definitely not an attempt to prevent attacks…that statement was an attack. But if we allow hate speech, people will be even more divided. Walkaway / Blexit / WalkAwAsian (whatever you have to do) ..before it’s too late!! Updates: October 15 October 07, 2020 - 2020. 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