This is a discussion on SBA3 brace on MPX? So many hunters and gun owners don't even belong to a pro-gun organization. They did (and do) little to actually stem crime, but are effective in stacking charges against criminals. Now, that ruling would be called into question a few times, eventually coming to a head in 2020, but we’re getting ahead of ourselves…. So, the ATF released a statement that said shouldering a pistol brace would make your pistol an SBR, which is illegal: "Consequently, the attachment of the SB-15 brace to an AR-type pistol alone; would not change the classification of the pistol to an SBR. Designed for all platforms capable of accepting a MIL-SPEC carbine receiver extension, the SBA3 is a 5-position adjustable AR pistol brace that dramatically enhances versatility. This spec sheet details the key features of the SBA3™. The 20 Dollar Pistol Brace - The Breach Brace. It is unusual for information about talks between a company and the ATF to be released to the public. Acts of Congress are not enforceable nor are they constitutional in the Fifty States. POOF just like that something that was legal was now illegal without any due process. The SB Tactical SBA3 Brace. I can probably fit the number of guys who need to turn a brace in to a stock who also happen to have a 16”+ upper laying around (I said need, if you don’t need this silly thing, I can’t see many getting it) and don’t also happen to have multiple rifle configured lowers or multiple rifles already. We’ve pulled all the essential info together to walk you through the brace’s humble beginnings, how AR pistols got involved, and the long-standing feud with the ATF over what you can (and can’t do) with a brace. That stamp allows for legal ownership of the SBR. Check out Johnny B wield a few AR-15 braces below. With the sides battling on and off for years, it can be easy to feel overwhelmed and confused as to what’s legal and where the ATF actually stands on braces. The BATF&E can legally come to your house at anytime and demand that you produce the registered item so that they may be sure you have not disposed of it. Think about it.......can you be charged with having an unregistered suppressor if you are using an oil filter on the muzzle? At the heart of the brace debate rests SB Tactical – inventor and makers of the most popular pistol braces. John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. Your overall length is more than 26 inches. Yeah, the old rewriting history claim of “Prohibition is why we have NFA” rears its head again. The SBA3 gives the shooter the ability to quickly adjust the brace… John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. ), vertical fore grip and arm brace (can be collapsing arm brace as collapsing butt stocks are illegal in CT too). ATF claims that SB Tactical continues to deliberately mislead the public, claiming that its braces are “ATF Compliant,” and continuing to sell millions of SB Tactical braces to unsuspecting gun owners. For now, the ATF has seemingly backed off the debate. Contrary to the letters’ baseless accusation about SB Tactical’s marketing, SB Tactical has never and would never mislead its customers. In 2017, the Bureau reverted to its previously held belief that firing a pistol brace from the shoulder does not reclassify the gun. SB Tactical points to two classification letters on its braces, but according to the ATF, SB Tactical continues to market and sell dozens of other models not covered by final determination letters. Does the ATF brace logic apply to these subgun/pistols as well? It’s that easy. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has reportedly changed a key gun measuring standard that is indirectly reclassifying popular pistols if they have a stabilizing brace and vertical foregrip. I’ve seen a pic floating around the internet with a SBA3 brace. These Rifle Parts by SB Tactical are 5-position adjustable so you can customize till your heart's content. Is the protection for: ALSO did you catch that part about a well REGULATED militia? SB Tactical SBA3 Stabilizing Brace. Question, a pistol with a folding brace adapter. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. After a waiting period, the gun owner eventually receives a tax stamp. Buckle up. I like the ergonomics of it (my nephews' is a blast to shoot), but it always seemed a loophole ready to be choked. Longer strap length to better accommodate larger forearms. No free ride here. And the socialist FDR who signed NFA? You do not pay anything extra and your This caused a myriad of confusion as it contradicted the earlier 2014 decision by the agency. While we’re on the topic of shorty firearms, we should also discuss short-barreled rifles and how they differ from AR pistols. Rest assured that all products in our inventory are made in the United States. 2014: ATF rules against shouldering braces. Connor, you are exactly right on modifying a brace. Among those documents is an incomplete, redacted criminal evaluation that SB Tactical has never seen before and which contains multiple inaccuracies. Very good point. That said, the ATF could always revisit the topic in the future. SB TACTICAL AR Brace SBA3 SBA3-01-SB ($10 S/H) - $129.99 Designed for all platforms capable of accepting a mil-spec carbine extension, the SBA3 4-position adjustable brace greatly enhances the usability of the firearm by adding a third point of … SB Tactical SBA3 Stabilizing Brace. It didn't take long for stun guns to hit the street and some moron think to himself or say to his buddies "Damn, this would be a great interrogation tool" I believe that NYPD first made the news with this novel approach (not to pick on NYPD). It's the old "if you don't like the law, change it. No waiting periods, no $200 fee. firearm classification laws) are silly and came from an era when legislators attempted to create "gotchas" for organized criminals. He lovingly referred to Stalin as Uncle Joe. One was the "streetsweeper shotgun", another was the "Commando Arms" Thompson look-alike. After fighting with SB Tactical and Sig Sauer for a couple of years, the ATF would ultimately back down and change direction…once again. By May, the first Pistol Stabilizing Braces were hitting the firearms marketplace. Just real easy to bumble into SBR territory if you don't really, carefully, research the law. It went on to suggest that the proposal was “ambiguous” and “subjective.” Many of the feelings echoed by the gun community. SB Tactical refutes all of the ATF letter’s claims. A Freedom of Information Act response selectively released by the ATF FOIA office shows that, on July 18, 2018, the ATF sent a letter to SB Tactical declaring that only two of their model braces had been approved for use as a pistol stabilizing brace. Don’t miss the bigger point in all of this—the NFA clearly violates the plain language of the 2A. Earlier this year Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz (R-1st District) has sent a pair of scathing letters (reported on here) to Attorney General William Bar and Acting Director Regina Lombardo at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), demanding a halt to the agency’s effort to restrict “the possession of certain pistol braces by American citizens.”. A better question would be “Should the NFA, GCA, CCW permits etc all be done away with or should we remove the 2A from the Bill of Rights?” Not even thinking about the future for our Children and Grandchildren. If you are using your build for tactile purposes, you should be able to build it to satisfy your requirements. If one fires a rifle like a pistol, what does that mean? Sale Price: $129.99 . Within days, comments totaled over 60,000 – mainly in opposition to the proposal. So, where does this leave brace and AR pistol owners? If you want to register just weight thier is a good chance that if BATF changes thier mined again you will be able to register for free. I'm not doing cartwheels over a "free registration"..... because it's exactly that....A REGISTRATION with many rules and caveats. within the SIG Sauer Rifles forums, part of the SIG Sauer Forum category; I have a gen2 8” MPX with the factory folding Sig brace. Again, there are no extra steps like you’ll see with an SBR purchase. Privacy Policy and Things began heating up as gun owners protested the ATF decision, and it wasn’t long until the Department of Justice stepped in. SB Tactical has been working with ATF and DOJ for years and has sought determinations from the agency about the status of its products as applied to particular firearms. Waiting periods can be as short as a couple of months or as long as a year, depending on the ATF’s backlog. The legal path to the AR pistol brace is a long one. Thank you for your support. That would seem to bridge the loophole. Our posts contain affiliate links and we earn a small commission from those links. One way I thought about would be an extended buffer tube w/fat padding, tucked between the collar bone and cheek. This Problem is being handled all wrong I think, the question is not are braces allowed. This stock did not "make a machine gun", but it played well in the media. SB Tactical finds the motives and actions of the ATF to be arbitrary and capricious. Prob all AR's and so on. Let’s face it, braces and AR pistols go together like PB&J. The Devoid also adds internal support to the brace and allows you to use the brace with your arm through the strap on the side of the brace instead of Especially the anti gun media. Again, before heading into the tangled legal battles surrounding the ATF and braces, we need to make a pit stop and discuss AR pistols. Surgeon Explains "doing This Every Day Can Snap Back Sagging Skin" (No Creams) If we loose the Senate, we'll have "hell to pay" when it comes to guns, ammo, magazines, self defense. JULY 2018 UPDATE: It has been clarified that you CAN legally shoulder an AR-15 pistol equipped with a stabilizing brace, irrespective of the manufacturer of the brace. If nothing else, you can get a free SBR stamp if/when they are deemed unlawful. You need written permission to take it out of state. It provides stability while firing the AR pistol. Pistol braces are one of the Agency’s top two concerns, along with 80% lower receivers, according to ATF Acting Director Regina Lombardo. It basically slips around the forearm of the shooter and, using Velcro, secures to the arm. There is no guarantee that this will be the case; they could just as easily follow the bump stock playbook and ban existing possession through executive order. The SBA3 is the current pinnacle of pistol braces. There are already several MILLION braced firearms in the U.S., the higher we make that figure the harder it will be for them to restrict ownership. The ATF gave citizens just 17 days to make their opinions known via online, public comments. Personally, I think I am going to SBR my CZ Bren S1 and be done with all of the drama. Pistol Braces & The ATF: What You Need to Know. I think it's a matter of when they will be restricted, rather than if, based on recent developments. Should braces fall under the NFA or should they be a legal accessory? From the most durable brace adapter found, to the softest and most comfortable grip on the market, this kit will allow for the installation of the coveted SB Tactical SBA3 stabilizing brace. Apr 10. Given the design, some users soon took to shouldering the brace, which led to confusion as to whether this moved the AR pistol into SBR territory. She’s passionate about self-defense and sharing what works (and what doesn’t) with readers. JoeBob dun saved you $40.00! See how that intent thing is so slippery? When the SHTF do you really care what the ATF thinks? Get the Specification Sheets. Many of our gun laws (i.e. The ATF initially cleared the device, stating that “the submitted brace, when attached to a firearm, does not convert that weapon to be fired from the shoulder and would not alter the classification of a pistol or other firearm.”. Washington, DC – -(AmmoLand.com)- AmmoLand News and other news organizations have received the document (embedded below) as part of an FOIA request recently submitted to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) after the Agency’s recent Honey Badger pistol brace fiasco. Honey Badger inventor weighs in The BATF & E was emboldened by the lack of backlash over the "Bump Stock" ban. This is also a trap to the uninformed. 9MM pistols with SB braces. Please add a section emphasizing the fact that you CANNOT modify a brace in any way that makes it work better as a stock. Absolutely. Yes, it's a choice better than surrender, but maybe just what the Gov't wants...a registration. This is what allows the SBA3 to slide and lock into five different positions on any milspec carbine receiver extension. *** So where does a tail hook brace fall it the definition of “brace” requires the Velcro strap ? The NFA as a whole is a clunky outdated law that was passed to deal with Prohibition era gun violence. At the time they were useless to put on, because you could not shoulder them. The ability to lend control and stability to AR pistols made braces a popular accessory. Heard about the ATF taking on pistol braces but feel a little lost as to what’s going on? Not necessarily for the person who simply was enjoying the weapon. Having said that, I clearly do not support anything being reclassified to fall within the restrictions of said Act. The specific models are the SB tactical SB15 and MPX SB. Sound off in the comments below. The list goes on and on. After a few years, it looked like the brace debate was finally put to bed; but in a startling twist of fate, the ATF reignited the brace debate in 2020. It’s sad how many “gun friendly folks” think I’m “extreme” in my beliefs that any free American should be able to own, use and carry whatever they want. So if you want one, I suggest you buy it now. What's next is anybody's guess. Despite a certain cool factor, braces actually help gun owners who struggle using full-length, shouldered rifles enjoy AR-style firearms comfortably. And your length of pull of the buffer tube is less than 13.5 inches. Trump didn't even say much about. I think it's less likely, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility. For their part, the ATF would not give SB Tactical, or anyone else in the business of making braces, the language to use on their websites. Sale Price: $129.99 . That being said, I do take GREAT umbrage with your argument’s “all or nothing” stance. JoeBob dun saved you $40.00! “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” This decision effectively turned Honeybadger owners into violators of the NFA overnight. But then, I began to think about the phrase "as it was (not) intended." If you've decided to make the jump and upgrade your pistol, you need to add the SB Tactical SBA3 Pistol Stabilizing AR Brace w/Mil-Spec Carbine Receiver Extension to your collection. SBA3 brace on MPX? This same system has been used at least three times since 1933. SB Tactical is aware that in response to FOIA requests from third parties, ATF has released internal documents that confirm the existence of an effort to malign and reclassify products used by millions of law-abiding Americans. Just before SHOT Show 2015, the ATF published a letter reversing its 2014 stance on braces.In the decision, the Bureau clarified that braces were not designed for shouldering, and to do so would create an SBR, not an AR pistol. A very functional version of the tailhook brace can be made in a few minutes from a short piece of 6"pvc pipe, a heat gun, and a nut and bolt. I'm looking for the ATF letter now, ill post when I find it. The use by able bodied shooters not withstanding, the initial reason for their existence is still very valid. The goal is to stabilize the gun as you’re firing. ATF’s false and irrelevant statements are sadly consistent with an activist and lawless ATF that refuses to engage SB Tactical or manufacturers on the legal status of accessories used by millions of Americans. Pistol braces have opened up a world of accessories and options to gun owners who need a way to stabilize the AR pistol but don’t have the means or want to add a buttstock (or pay for the SBR classification…more on that in a minute.). This includes filling out paperwork, undergoing a background check, fingerprinting, and paying a $200 tax to the ATF. How to install the SBA3™ Pistol Stabilizing Brace® onto an AR platform using a mil-spec carbine receiver extension. I would not bother registering any thing yet. On December 23, 2020, less than a week after the proposal’s unveiling, the Department of Justice reversed course and promptly withdrew the proposal. Designed for all platforms capable of accepting a mil-spec carbine extension, the SBA3 5-position adjustable brace greatly enhances the usability of the firearm by adding a third point of contact. As gun owners clamored to fight the bureau’s proposal reclassifying braced AR pistols, they were in for yet another surprise. Get proficient on YOUR time. This leads me back to intent; NFA and the Firearms Act was intended to entangle bad guys who were already in the act of committing other crimes. But under the surface lies a darker issue. The ATF says that the only two braces covered by the letters are the original SB15 and MPX PSB. The History of the Brace . We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. If one "conceals" a long gun, what does that mean? The ATF is at it again. The critical element comes down to how a brace and buttstock are used. Good info and valid point! Well, instead of making you scour the internet, we made things easy with a top-to-bottom look at pistol braces and the ATF. A brace, on the other hand, is an entirely different matter. A 2014 letter by the ATF determined that adding a brace to an AR pistol would not move it into SBR territory. As long as the firearm measures less than 26-inches in overall length and features a barrel length of 16-inches or less AND do not come with a buttstock or vertical foregrip, they fall into the AR pistol realm. If you don’t own one, now might be the time to invest should anything change in the future. Initially designed by SB Tactical as a stability-improving device for wounded and disabled veterans, pistol braces are an ideal accessory for AR-15 pistols and pistol-grip shotguns due to the increased control, improved aim and additional support they provide. SB Tactical®, the originator of the Pistol Stabilizing Brace® and manufacturers of industry-leading firearm accessories, is setting the bar for innovation and product development in the PDW pistol category. Look through just about any gun magazine and you will see somebody with an AR Pistol and a brace using it exactly as it was not intended to be used, i.e. The ATF is going against executive orders and making secret rules and policy without the public's knowledge and yet are held responsible to follow said secret rules. We’ve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. The laws have no impact on criminals. The issue seemed to be at rest, but gun owners were still feeling uneasy…. Designed to prevent the deformation of the SBA3’s rubber arm supports while in storage or transport. Good article, I've owned AR pistols since 2015 and have followed the many ATF letters shared and debated on arfcom. Hakim & Rasheed Carbine [Review]. This answer harkens back to the problem being that the ATF doesn’t have a set standard for pistol braces. I don't disagree with your position at all, Allen. Don't just ignore or mock it publicly." Even if they revisit braces and ban them. Two months passed with radio silence from the ATF until, in mid-December, a new proposal published in the Federal Registrar. This would be a very easy way to bumble into a Felony arrest. Armed with a degree in journalism, she’s penned thousands of articles for the gun industry. Additionally, while the words are plain, they are anything but clear in their intent. If that happens, Pew Pew Tactical will update this page accordingly. It’s hard for me to swallow the notion that our forefathers were against rules. var wWidgetConf_72c367966e = {rows: 4,cols: 1,backgroundColor: 'rgb(240, 240, 240)',textColor: 'rgb(0, 0, 0)',borderColor: '#DDD',displayContent: '0',contentSort: '0',contentType: '0',showTitle: '1',showThumb: '1',widgetID: 'wWidget_72c367966e',layout: 'basic'}; (function(w,d,s,i){w.ldAdInit=w.ldAdInit||[];w.ldAdInit.push({slot:11366059450282598,size:[0, 0],id:"ld-3996-7102"});if(!d.getElementById(i)){var j=d.createElement(s),p=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];j.async=true;j.src="//cdn2.lockerdomecdn.com/_js/ajs.js";j.id=i;p.parentNode.insertBefore(j,p);}})(window,document,"script","ld-ajs"); Copyright ©GunsInTheNews.com, All Rights Reserved. Once the ATF said you could shoulder a brace, they became all the rage. Where are the measurements taken. But to reiterate, an AR pistol cannot use a buttstock. No permits, no background checks, just treat the 2A as a Right. If the law was enforced in it's strictest wording, I think one would be in violation if you just took the velcro strap off of a brace. ATF Issues Conflicting Documents on Legal Pistol Braces, Sons Of Liberty Radio LIVE with Tim Brown Weekdays 6-7am EST, Missouri: County Passes Ordinance To Arrest Fedcoats Violating Citizens’ Gun Rights, Review: ‘Navy SEAL Shooting: Learn How to Shoot from Their Leading Instructor’ by Chris Sajnog, A HYPOCRITICAL BIDEN “VIRTUE SIGNALS” HIS EXTREME GUN CONTROL AGENDA, GOA-ENDORSED CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY BECOMES LAW IN MONTANA, First Look: Browning SA-22 Challenge Rifle, Hardware: Winchester XPR Renegade Long Range SR, approval letter for the SB Tactical SOB and SBM4, NRA Shows their Petticoats, and the US Trustee Objects to Brewer, 2020 Presidential Hopeful Kamala Harris Claims She’ll Usurp Congress’ Authority & Change Already Unconstitutional Gun Laws By “Presidential Fiat”. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. On the surface they are trying a brace ban. Does the ATF get to decide intent? On August 3, 2020, gun maker Q received a cease-and-desist letter from the agency regarding its Honeybadger AR pistol. The NRA has supported gun legislation throughout much of the 20th century. The ATF turned over the document that alleged the popular pistol brace company SB Tactical had “misinformed the public about its pistol braces’ legality“. We carry a wide variety of pistol-stabilizing braces in multiple color finishes and styles, so you’re sure to find the perfect brace … UPDATE !!!! Prohibition ended in 1933, with the 21A proposed in Feb and passed in Dec. ie... end of barrel to where? This single letter is just one small part of greater discussions between ATF and the Firearms industry but it highlights the selective, contradictory, and compartmentalized nature of the ATF approval process. Top Shooting Drills and Zeroing Targets worth $47 FREE - Limited Period Offer, Palmetto State Armory: Heritage Rough Rider .22 LR 6.5" Revolver - $150 (Normally $180), Palmetto State Armory: PSA AR-15 Complete MOE EPT Lower - $280 (Normally $350), Brownells: Vortex Optics Spitfire HD Gen II Prism Scope - $450, Brownells: H&K AR-15 HK-Style Micro Sight Set - $150 (Normally $196), Egyptian Rifle Roundup! I haven't seen anyone address the pistol brace and sub-guns like the Scoprion or B&T. From the end of the barrel to where? The Firearms Blog spoke with the CEO of SB Tactical, the company that pretty much invented the stabilizing pistol brace, who opined that while Gaetz’s revelations “seem alarming, it is, in fact, nothing new.” SB Tactical and other manufacturers communicate and work with the ATF to provide technical guidance about pistol braces, how they’re measured, how they work, and so … And as Walt Kelley's "Pogo" oft said, "We has met the enemy and he is us!" Any gun with a barrel under 16” is not allowed to have an actual stock, folding or not, without becoming an SBR and requiring a tax stamp. Also, we sell a variety of AR pistol buffer tube kits, which include SB Tactical SBA3 and SBA4 buffer combo kits. In 2013, SB Tactical introduced the AR-pistol “stabilizing brace.” Navy veteran Alex Bosco designed the brace for a … A braced AR pistol would still be considered a pistol. The 16-page document addressed AR pistols/braces offering “proposed guidance” on classifying weapons with stabilizing braces. the real question is where is the authority to enforce an Act of Congress and what jurisdiction is this said act enforceable? They were designed to allow disabled shooters to participate in a shoot sport that they might not otherwise be able to safely. It features a minimalist design with an integral, ambidextrous QD sling socket for even more shooting positions. You roll up to your local FFL to choose your model or buy online and ship to an FFL to handle the transfer. Though it’s important to note, the proposal is still “pending further review” meaning that it could resurface at a later date. LOL! Thanks to a bit of vagueness on the Gun Control Act’s part, AR pistols are able to occupy a weird space between pistols and short-barreled rifles. Q moved swiftly, encouraging owners to disassemble the Honeybadger or register it with the ATF (which they offered to pay the $200 fee for). By definition, an SBR, or short-barreled rifle, is also a firearm with a barrel under 16-inches. Check out our beginners guns video course. There's no good reason for it then to obstruct law abiding citizens. As I recall from reading the ATF proposal, any braces already sold would be grandfathered. Just perfect scenario to bumble into an arrest. And this is where the ATF gets involved.SBRs fall under the National Firearms Act and are, therefore, regulated by the ATF. If these braces are banned or registered, the penalty for fabricating such a restricted item would be a felony, just the same as fabricating a drop in auto sear for an AR. Videos. This waffling back and forth creates much confusion and false information. Do they keep us safe? SB Tactical’s SBA3 runs $169.99 on their site, with online prices elsewhere hovering around $129.99 for the whole kit-and-kaboodle. Designed for all platforms capable of accepting a MIL-SPEC carbine receiver extension, the SBA3 is a 5-position adjustable AR pistol brace that dramatically enhances versatility. Making them illegal is taxing them under the NFA means depriving a segment of the population of their 2A Right based on a HANDICAP!!! The ATF claimed that, despite repeated ATF warnings, that specific SB Tactical Brace models are not, in fact, braces, but instead, stocks that turn pistols into illegal short-barreled rifles in violation of the NFA. The other was the 1968 Registration Amnesty. Be mindful of your overall length (26" max) and barrel length if you are trying to call it a pistol. This is how we help to make money so we can continue to bring you amazing content. The problem with the "free tax stamp" is that it creates a legal registry for future use such as confiscation. We’ve built dozens of AR’s and we’ll cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. At the very LEAST remove SBRs, SBS's, and suppressors from falling under the NFA; in a perfect world it would be repealed, but we have to choose our battles wisely. May have been other "free registrations". Original CT “Others” we’re not built with braces. Best Handgun for Beginners & Home Defense [2021], 6 Best AR-10s [2021]: Complete Buyer's Guide, 10 Best Shooting Ear Protection [Electronic & Passive Hands-On], 18 Best Gun Safes for Pistols & Long Guns [All Budgets], 6 Best AR-15 Flashlights [2021 Real Views]. Built specifically to fit the the SBA3 Brace only. I'm thinking about tax stamping my MPX anyway, then throwing a stock on it. I live in CT where ARs are banned but what is interesting is that the loophole (for now) is to build a firearm classified as 'other'. Honestly, they look very similar and it can be confusing differentiating between the two. You can't loan it to anyone. The SBA3 Pistol Stabilizing Brace Attachment will give your AR pistol the appearance of an SBR … From AR to AK pistols, SB Tactical has supplied the industry with a bevy of braces for several years. Basically, an AR pistol undergoes the exact same process as a regular gun purchase. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com. Do they work as intended? Q Honey Badger Pistol with SB Tactical Brace IM Q Instagram. Talk about feeding the BATF all the ammunition it needs to take a new position regarding braces. 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